Are you saying that there is no controversy in the usapl or ipf? Come on Jim you cant be serious. Then explain to me how that Siders got a longer suspension for lifting in a meet with Coan than a lot of other lifters did for failing a drug test. Yes the usapl is a lot better fed than nasa, nasa is really a joke compared to the usapl, but anywhere there is drug testing there is going to be strupid talk, like whos beating the test and how, or he said that so and so is really not getting tested, or like Billy M said the one ipf lifter that gave a fake address so he couldnt be tested at random, but was still allowed to compete and win the worlds. No Jim no controversy here! As far as the wpo and other non tested feds, nobody could give a rats ass about drug testing and the meets are so much more smooth. In the drug tested feds a lot of guys that are your so called friends turn and pick a man apart like a bunch of turkey buzzers on a road kill as soon as a man fails one drug test. Then they sit around and giggle like little girls and tell anybody that will listen about who just failed the latest drug test. A lot of us would rather have a un level playing feild than have to listen and deal with all the slander and jealousy.