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This will be the last on this topic.....

Posted By: Tim"THEPEOPELSCHAMP"Bruner (cpe-24-174-14-25.austin.res.rr.com)
Date: Tuesday, February 26, 2008, @ 3:57 p.m.

In Response To: Les cramer (Tom North)

Tom
James
anyone else.

As a reader on this forum and a poster, I have first hand screwing from les scammer, i post about it and a normal person would consider this a favor, however I think I owe it to anyone else who does know this guy and trust me he uses his old man act as a front! I do not enjoy posting crap about this guy but what I find amazing is that there will be a few who will still "risk" it, and so be it!

Not just from my dealings with him but ask around and you will see the same. I do not lie nor do I have too! Some of the crap this guys does can not be made up! Now as if there is not enough I have cut and pasted a posting from Les himself and you tell me who is a nut?

Please understand, I am all for more meets and more lifters and all that crap but when there is a rat running loose then we need to get rid of it! (sorry to the rat, I did not mean to insult them as to comparing them to Scammer).

Good luck

late

Profile: Les Cramer

Winningest lifter in the history of the sport; has competed in physique, powerlifting and Olympic lifting since 1963.

Participated in 347 meets

Lifted in 21 different federations

Holds 64 state records

Has set 32 world squat records

Eight American bench press records

Has won National titles with 7 federations

As a coach his AAU team from 1968 to 1973 was undefeated with 55 wins. That team included Don Reinhouldt and Joe Orienga

Started the YMCA Nationals in 1972 in Erie, PA

Still competes in 8 to 10 meets a year

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